Here’s some more “world opinion” for you.
Via Hot Air:
Well all rightee then.
Thanks, Turkey. Thanks, Mexico. Assholes. Especially Mexico, and here’s why, from Political Vindication:
…68 percent of our friends down south are willing to entertain the idea that the Americans they know are in fact cold blooded killers. For all the international ignorance on display here in this poll - It is Mexico’s response that draws my Ire. Why?
Because no other country in that list ought to know us as well as Mexico does. Were it not for the generosity and widespread apathy of Americans the client country of Mexico would be a collection of mining towns and cartel communities. When we contemplate that the United States accepts the suppository of Mexico’s brightest and most desperate, fashioning our laws and institutions to reward lawbreaking so as to assuage the Guadalupan guilt complex we’ve been nursing, how can it be that Mexicans look to the north and see terrorists? Billions of dollars flow from our country to theirs, our government is even paying them to guard their side of the border. Across this nation sanctuary cities light up the welcome sign for illegal immigrants, then hide those that murder and rape Americans, and finally refuse to deport, much less keep out alien criminals who prey repeatedly on citizens of a country that feeds their families back home. I would not blame Mexicans for thinking us a bunch of chumps; easily fooled and ripe for the picking. But what here would lead any Mexican to believe we are the type of people that would murder our own? If we were that greedy, driven to execute innocents for want of oil and power, why stage an attack by Arabs when we could have thrown a few Mexicans on those planes and declared war on the oil rich country right on our border?
Exactly. Screw you, Mexico.
So. It’s the 7th anniversary of the day our government - according to large numbers of “the world’s people” - committed mass murder on its own citizens, all for that sweet, sweet oil (that we still don’t have - where’s my oil dammit?!) And also because President Bush is a chimp.
I don’t know, with him being the submoronic imbecile they say he is, I’ve always thought it pretty remarkable that he managed to pull off such a feat in the less than nine months he’d been in office by then. But then I remember he’s just the puppet; KKKarl Rove and The Jooos are the real masterminds.
I don’t mean to make light of anything on such an anniversary. It just makes me angry that so many people are stupid enough to buy into idiotic conspiracy theories, and also that so many Americans don’t even seem to care about it anymore. I guess all of this is natural; people will be stupid and people will forget. It still makes me sad.
I say DK. That means Daily Kos, right?
September 11th, 2008 at 9:28 amThe world is a bell curve …
September 11th, 2008 at 9:29 am… meaning … so a huge number of people are stupid, who’d believe it?
I’m curious about the nuance in the question … perhaps people feel the US is responsible because we incited it, or we encouraged it, etc. vs. we physically did it and blamed Al Qaeda.
Having been to Egypt, and witnessed how poor, stupid, and dishonest they are, it comes as no surprise that the ME countries are slow to blame themselves.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:31 amWhen I saw DK I was thinking Denmark? Why would anyone think Denmark was behind 9/11.
And yeah, Mexico, you suck. I say that from right across the border in San Diego County. I keep forgetting to put the Border Patrol on my speed dial so I can call when I see those asshole illegals strolling through my little town in the mountains. Damn illegals stole me car, left a campfire that started a wildfire resulting in our evacuation, and led the Border Patrol on a high speed chase that ending in a rollover accident in front of our house, just to name a few reasons why they piss me, personally, off. Also, those that do drive here, legally, I assume, are sucky drivers.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:36 amYou know who is to blame right? Mainly US, or rather the U.S. media and every dimwit with too much time on their hands who blogs about conspiracy theories. It is sad, but these people don’t know that the rest of the world IS listening. Then there is Michael Mooron, and he wants the world to listen and wants the U.S. to go down in a ball of flames so he can have his socialist version of America. On this anniversary, please remember how you felt when you first saw those planes hit and remember the rescue workers, the people who dug through the rubble, strewn with pieces of our fellow citizens. What did liberals think, when their life was in danger and they were suddenly so vulnerable and the only people protecting their sorry ass was the military they scorn so readily. Fighter jets flying around Manhattan, who would have thought it would happen. Still no major terrorist attacks since that day. Thank you George W. Bush, a long fruitful life for you, a job well done.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:38 amoh yeah, Mexico does suck, but what do you expect? High culture?
September 11th, 2008 at 9:41 amI love the South Park episode on the 9/11 conspiracy, and I don’t usually like South Park.
The Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
Especially the part where Pres. Bush is faking them out about the conspiracy:
And Kyle says- “Really?”
September 11th, 2008 at 9:44 am*forgot the blockquote
How could the ME countries blame themselves? They’re
God’sAllah’s chosen ones with the only religion that anybody should belong to. There’s nothing wrong with the fact that they’re a bunch of closeted gay misogynists who decided Biblical times was a perfect place to stop developing because some camel-humping sand jockey wrote a book saying it’s OK to boink nine-year-old girls as long as you’re doing it in the name ofGodAllah and also remembering to either behead or tax the infidels stupid enough not to want to get in on this action.Who could possibly find that less than appealing. Or blameworthy for all their (many) problems, for that matter?
September 11th, 2008 at 9:44 amI was just looking out my window at work to where the World Trade Center USED to be, and the entire world and all their parasitic citizenship can kiss my proverbial ass.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:45 amI disagree with the 68% number. You can’t add up all the choices that aren’t al Qaeda and jooos and call it U. S. when there already a subset within the set called US gov’t. So really it’s 30% of Mexicans think we’re terrorists, which is really not a whole lot different than the other countries on the list. But I’m all for saying “fuck you very much, Mexico.” I don’t have a problem with that.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:53 amThat was a great episode but I think they kind of ruined it. When it originally aired they used a different voice for Bush. They gave him this completely sinister voice, making him sound more like an evil South Park Villain than just an “evil” Bush. The next time it aired and the put the Bush characteristic into the voice. I think they should have left it there, giving the impression that Bush is only faking the way he talks, especially for that first part with him.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:53 amWhen did the rest of the world ever appreciate what we do for them? Fuck the rest of the world.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:53 amFuck you, world.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:56 amShe needs the Chuck Norris Award, post haste. Never have finer words been spoke.
EDIT: Corrected gender of the future recipient. And if you search back a couple of blogs, you’ll see the award for all its glory.
September 11th, 2008 at 9:57 amMotion seconded.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:07 amSuccintly spoken, Diesel.
Global Voting
What is this, the Underwear Nation (UN)?
September 11th, 2008 at 10:11 amI think there is a possibility that you are misinterpreting the Mexican reaction somewhat. The Mexican government IS a criminal conspiracy - at all levels - and has been for more than sixty years. Many Mexicans doubtless consider this to be the natural state of affairs vis á vis governments (they have a point). Therefore, if something horrific has happened in the U.S., it is natural for them to suspect that the U.S. government had something to do with it. Not because it is the U.S. government per se, but because it is the government of the territory in which the horror happened.
Add this to the torrent of tripe pouring from Left-Wing American pie-holes, and I can see where you might get the numbers we are seeing.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:23 amErrr… ummmm… since I just started reading this blog a few weeks ago, what exactly is a “Chuck Norris Award”? and BTW, I am a she not a he.
No harm no foul kids. I have a big doofy Rotti I call Mr. Diesel Las Vegas, who happens to look fabulous in varying degrees of head-dress and other fashion disasters. I googled “freaks who dress their dogs in ridiculous outfits” if memory serves me and ended up here…
September 11th, 2008 at 10:28 amI second the motion ~
September 11th, 2008 at 10:29 amPerhaps, but these stains also happily shout “OSAMA! OSAMA!” when US Soccer teams have played in Mexico. So Fuck them.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:31 amLMAO… I’m assuming our dear Rachel was at the top of that particular search.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:34 amDiesel, you said it for me, too. Preach it, sister. Hi to your Rottie.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:35 am
September 11th, 2008 at 10:44 amDK probably represents Don’t Know
September 11th, 2008 at 10:45 amDon’t forget all the asshats that still deny the Holocaust and the Moon Landing. People don’t like to believe the obvious. They somehow want everything to be more fanciful than that. Hence: Hopechange!!!
September 11th, 2008 at 11:06 amIf we were as ruthless as Mexico thinks, our border fence would have minefields, robotic machineguns, and 20,000 volts running thru it… and no warning signs. Just a daily lotto on how many we killed.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:13 amHey, how do we go about getting THAT version of the border fence funded? Can I take a 6-week leave of absense from work and help build it?
You wanna see ruthlessness, muthafuckers? DO YA?
Assholes.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:20 amI think you might be on to something.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:22 amYeah, you definitely have to watch the entire episode, because that whole “blowing the guy’s brains out” part is a little hard to see if one thinks it’s real. Well, as real as a cartoon ever gets, anyway!
September 11th, 2008 at 11:26 amI had no idea the Dead Kennedys had been implicated.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:29 amhM
September 11th, 2008 at 11:30 amShort answer-
We didn’t admit we deserved it, that’s what happened.
Kenya and Nigeria have both had significant Al-Quaeda attacks themselves.
I value THEIR opinion over the others for obvious reasons.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:45 amIf I may, I’d like to put up a quote from Ann Coulter’s latest column about the 9/11 attacks. You should read the whole column if you get a chance.
Razor sharp tongue, acid wit, and almost as good looking as a certain blogger who shall remain nameless but has the initials “Rachel Lucas”. What more could you ask for?
September 11th, 2008 at 11:56 amI will never forget. I will make sure at least one member of the next generation understands what happened (when he is old enough). The complacency and apathy towards 9/11 makes me ill.
BTW, DK - don’t know. Should be DGaF - don’t give a fook. They are all so worldly, you know.
Christ in a Centrifuge! There had better be some ass kicking dog pictures at the end of this day!
September 11th, 2008 at 12:04 pmThat just kills me. For years I have had a terribly difficult time trying to wrap my head around the logic that says: It’s OK if thousands of innocent people die because a few corners of the world can’t get their shit together and need a scapegoat. And other countries who should damn well know better actually buy into it. Fucking socialist bastards.
It’s the major reason about why I’m totally serious when I say if the economy could survive it we should lock down our borders - and those of our very good allies - and watch the world burn. Oh, you guys need help… again? Fuck you. Fuck you and fuck your self-important “multicultural” attitude. We’re tired of playing a game with rules that shift but always paint us as the bad guys. And I’m personally tired of watching friends and family spend unGodly amounts of time in the ass-crack of the world just so some eurotrash fucknugget can stay free and safe enough to tell us how mean and imperialistic we are and how dumb the American public is for giving them that gift. That’s right, a gift, because it’s the fact that we spend shit-loads of money on our military that they can afford to have a liberal’s wet dream of socialized everything and what amounts to a bunch of boy scouts playing dress-up as various ineffectual militaries.
When someone needs aid, who’s planes are in the air full of cargo? Oh, that’s right, ours. When the troops of other countries need to be moved quickly and efficiently for international operations who is equipped to deal with that? Us, you say? When the soldiers of other countries get hurt in that ass crack full of sand who often flies them back to Europe? My God, could it be… us?
Fucking bastards all. If I had a left nut they could suck it.
/rant
September 11th, 2008 at 12:15 pmThe “world” only likes us when we have taken the body blow of a strategic attack.
That should tell you something.
For my money, the “world” can get bent.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pmThat people from poor Kenya and Nigeria come out as more in touch with reality in this poll compared to Western Europeans just goes to show the failure of Western societies where almost universal schooling and high percentages of college graduates does not necessarily translate into a population with the ability to practice that most fundamental aspect of human intelligence - common sense.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThese days my attitude can pretty much be summed up as: Screw everybody else, except Israel and maybe Great Britain. The rest of the world can go to hell.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:43 pmCareful now…this article is dissing Juan’s wannabe constituency.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:46 pmAnd a reality game show based on such:
September 11th, 2008 at 12:46 pmHow did poor Kenya and Nigeria get to be the intellectual bright spots of the world? I think we ought to increase American aid to those two nations at the expense of all the other blithering idiots.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:49 pmDiesel, background on the Unique Hidden Gusset award is here and here.
I’ll also second the nomination.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:06 pmHahaha, you guys are fucked up. I feel like Carrie at the prom… thanks for the nominations.
:::sniff:::
September 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pmI propose that the next time some sh*thole country gets invaded by their neighbors, or there’s a tsunami or major earthquake…. we stay home. No aid, no troops, no money. Let’s hear them crying when we don’t pull their nuts out of the fire.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:23 pmI think part of that is because the world had a belief. Various nations had been dealing with acts of terror on their homesoil. Suddenly America has had it as well, and it was a devestating wake up call. So the rest of the world could feel sympathy for America because we had joined them in that boat.
But then we did what they didn’t like. We got in the boat, but then we didn’t want to just sail where the wind would take us. We wanted to slap a motor on it and soup it up. We started bringing harpoon guns on. We wanted to fight back.
When the rest of the world was getting punched in the face they would just walk away and ignore it. We got punched in the face and pulled out the brass knuckles before hitting back.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pmDK means, “Don’t Know.”
ETA: I didn’t realize that mongo said it before I did! Carry on.
September 11th, 2008 at 2:33 pmIf we were as ruthless as Mexico thinks…..
Mexico undoubtedly judges us based on their own Power Elite, with reference to swine like Castro, and the ethics-less jerks who infest the Liberal Left. On that standard, if we were as ruthless as Mexico thinks, our southern border would be with Guatemala and Belize.
Which, come to think of it, would be a LOT easier to close………
September 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pmThanks for the link Rachel. I know that on a day like today I ought to be writing about the lives lost and the courage of our warriors, but everyone needs a pinata to pound away on when you feel like slugging someone. If I could just find a pinata that looks like Adam Gadahn it’d be perfect. But Mexico volunteered itself for a beating, so my thanks to the 68 percent who couldn’t find it in their hearts and minds to think better of America.
Yea…Screw You Mexico.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pmI’ve been saying something like that for a while now. If we were really “Imperialistic”, that’s what we would do, in order to solve the illegal immigration problem. And solve the problems we have with policy regarding Cuba the same way.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pmThis thread is full of righteous and appropriate indignation. I say everybody should get the UHG Award (The UHG Thread). hM rocks with the 9/11 motivator, Diesel is spot on.
I, like Mongo, was making sure that at least one person in the next generation would know and appreciate why 9/11 mattered. I was in the process of doing that teaching to my 8 year old as FNC played their memorial on the tube. He was understanding pretty well why we were fighting and recognized the courage of the people on Flight 93 (God Bless them all). Fox showed a shot of somebody leaping from the WTC and I almost lost it - tears of fury. He got worried when he saw my wet eyes and heard my voice trail off. (RCOB)
Remember our troops in your prayers tonight and always.
Thanks Rchl for giving us this forum. What an amazing bunch of posters - smart, learned, irreverent and PATRIOTIC.
September 11th, 2008 at 4:33 pmNo, no, no. DK = “Drinks Kool-Aid.”
September 11th, 2008 at 4:53 pmThis is great, Obama’s electoral map:
in case the link thing didn’t work, here’s the url
http://penetratinginsights.blogtownhall.com/2008/09/09/obamas_electoral_map.thtml
September 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pmConsider the world like the muslims in the UK;
Give them an inch and they will give you a good screwing.
September 11th, 2008 at 6:34 pmThere’s not really much to say here, except: I second every comment here.
September 11th, 2008 at 7:51 pmThe one thing that I’ll always think of when September Eleventh comes up is the story of a man named Tony Savas. He was a building inspector who had overseen the near-constant renovations and changes made to the World Trade Center interior for years as spaces were bought, sold, and expanded.
When the first plane hit, Tony managed to get down from the upper floors, helping people towards the exits all the way down. Once he reached the lobby, he could have chosen to get out, to get to safety, to get back to his wife and three children. However, he saw the firemen arriving to mount rescue attempts. So he called his son and told him what had happened, and that he had to go back in. Tony had keys for every lock, the blueprints in his head, and he knew every back way and short cut in the Towers. No one else could do what he could do; no one else could lead the firemen to the people they needed to reach. So they went back inside, determined to save as many as they could.
Tony Savas and the firemen he was guiding did not return.
When Marvel Comics put together “Moment of Silence”, a special sold to help fund the relief efforts, they chose to lead with Tony’s story, not just because one of the Savas children was a Marvel intern, but because Tony’s final hours embodied the principle of great responsibility coming with great power: Tony sacrificed his life without hesitation in the hope that his skills and knowledge could be put to use saving others.
With the utmost sincerity and respect, I salute the memory of Tony Savas, the firemen, policemen, and rescue workers who died with him on September Eleventh, and the members of our Armed Forces who are even now working to prevent another September Eleventh from befalling us, because they are truly Earth’s Mightiest Heroes.
September 11th, 2008 at 8:27 pmI can only assume that “Iraq” was included in “other,” which means that it wasn’t mentioned very often … wish they would have asked a bunch of Americans too.
September 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pmI think just about everybody here is missing the point. The overwhelming majority of countries do not have a free press, nor are their citizens sufficiently “wealthy” to be able to access the internet. They get the information that their governments feed them, plus whatever scuttlebutt seeps down from rumor and gossip.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pmIf any nation here is to be condemned it is Germany, which has access to the truth and should know better.
What are the stats for US citizens?
September 12th, 2008 at 2:32 amYeah, where’s the U.S. on this poll? I suspect we’d come in about like the UK, regardless of our free press. I’m beginning to think that merely means free to be biased fools, btw.
What really stuck out to me, was how much more reasonable the response from the Palestinian Territory was compared to other M.E. countries. Who would have predicted that?
September 12th, 2008 at 3:36 amRachel, easy on the Mexicans!
Not to make excuses for Mexico, but I lived there for a few years and got to know the people pretty well. Here’s the deal. Most people in Mexico are pretty much illiterate, if not literally, certainly in the political sense. As such, they are easily manipulated, primarily by the left, into thinking that all things USA are evil, conspiracy, etc. Also, their government is amazingly corrupt. It’s hard for them to comprehend good government.
For instance, when I told a friend that Watergate was a break-in to a guy’s shrink’s office and subsequent lies about it, his response was: “That’s all it was? There was no murder? no large scale graft? I can’t believe you ran a president out of office for this! This wouldn’t even merit ink in Mexico.” This from a college-bound high school graduate.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:01 pmBeing from Mexico, I’m a little baffled by this, as I’ve never encountered, either thru tv, newspaper, radio or even with people all these 7 years, this sort of thought that states that we think the US govt was responsible for the 9/11. I’ll have to look thru this poll a lil bit more thoroughly to see how was this done as I find the idea not only insane but utterly idiotic.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pmI mean, I was there that morning watching the news live and was pretty clear to me it was the job from some Arab nutjobs, and obviously made it to the top headlines of every major newspaper in the country, so I can only guess complete misinformation or ignorance (or even cherry picking the areas to make the polls). I’ll see what I can find about this.
There have been a lot of US polls on this subject, but as far as I know there have been no polls of this same nature (i.e., open-ended) in the United States. Plus they were all taken at different times and using different questions, so it’s impossible to make a true comparison.
Would be interesting to find out, though.
September 12th, 2008 at 6:10 pmLOL I love Egypt & Jordan’s theories: “It was those damned Jews!!!”
September 13th, 2008 at 11:35 amYeah - no bias THERE LOL
*sigh*